| On myth and religion in the incredibly ugly network
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26 Apr 06 |
Comop.lang.smalltalk excerpt between Joachim Tuchel and Andre Schnoor.
Joachim Tuchel wrote:
> >> ... Why on earth does it seem everybody believes that JBOSS or any EJB
> >> environment will scale with no limits? After all, it's a bunch of Java
> >> classes running in a JVM, just like seaside is a bunch of SMalltalk
> >> classes runnung in a Smalltalk-VM....
Andre Schnoor answered
Marketing. The right buzz words and false promises within a perfect
> opportunity window in history - and there you are. If something is new (I
> mean so new that nobody can actually grasp it), hype and buzz sometimes
> work like religion: You believe what you want to believe. You find
> yourself spreading the word before you actually had a look at it. Suddenly
> there are 5 million people chiming in, while only a mere 0,05% of them
> really know what they are talking about. The big bang of myths.
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> I ran rather large sites with 8 million+ monthly visitors and 7-8
> Terrabytes of bandwith on a single 4 CPU Sun. Others required 16 Suns for
> less traffic. It mostly depends on your database model and how frequently
> users interact with content that is compiled "live" (not cached). The
> basic application scripting doesn't account much to it.
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> From the perspective of a classic software engineer (and with an extra
> bias towards German "Gruendlichkeit"), web technology in general is a huge
> pile of complicated, heterogenous, incredibly expensive and annoying crap.
> All that in-band signalling, all those stone age protocols and character
> sets, quick & dirty hacks, spaghetti scripting,
> what-happens-next-machines ... think about how incredibly *ugly* this
> network actually is ;-)
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> Seaside looks like a very beautiful and innovative thing. You should give
> it a try.
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